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    Good article, and much needed today. I discovered these truths a few years ago reading Miles Stanfords book "The Complete Green Letters" Visit Withchrist.org for more articles like this.
    2008-01-25 13:43:28 Posted by mark (breesemm@frontiernet.net)

    Good article, and much needed today. I discovered these truths a few years ago reading Miles Stanfords book "The Complete Green Letters" Visit Withchrist.org for more articles like this.
    2008-01-25 13:43:30 Posted by mark (breesemm@frontiernet.net)

    This is what Christianity is all about. I gave you an "Amen!" at http://www.AmenMe.com/AmenMe/

    2008-08-29 19:36:47 Posted by 2r0y ()


    I found the article shallow; to be an unsustaining message for the one hoping in Christ. The below is what hope will.

    Concerning Propitiation

    “For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. . . . .”. Christ did the propitiating thing thus canceling out the hereditary condemnation of Adam’s transgression which was passed on to all of mankind. Though His dying, being what it was, could also not exclude personal past sins committed by man. Man now being a new creature at this point, by faith believing the propitiation of Christ, had the stain of Adam removed. . . “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:6,8 (KJV) Thus it is that Paul explains this to those without insight in an attempt to make clear that, because of the transgression, all in the afterwards of procreation were deemed sinners [transgressors] and Jesus, when canceling out the original, canceled out all past on by procreation. This is what the cross performed.

    Knowing He died for the ungodly does not diminish man’s state beyond that condition to one of reprobate, as some would suppose, inasmuch as all who were in an ‘ungodly’ state of being were, by the evidence of their testimony, not reprobate. If we can view being ungodly as that which is without intimacy with God then the passage can be opened up to our minds to reveal to it, the understanding of the life purposed for intimacy with God. “Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.”
    2 Corinthians 5:17 (KJV) ‘Old things’ here is not to be construed exclusively as meaning sin or sins but being subjected to an influence that wars against me to persuaded me away from God, to be my own god. It must be noted that the subjection (Rom.8:20) is however, not lifted from man but a way to “put it to death” is made complete by the death of Jesus Christ; the hope of God has been satisfied. (Rom. 8:21) “O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.” Romans 7:24-25; 8:1-2 (KJV)

    2009-11-10 08:12:46 Posted by Cross (croref@gmail.com)


    I found the article shallow; to be an unsustaining message for the one hoping in Christ. The below is what hope will.

    Concerning Propitiation

    “For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. . . . .”. Christ did the propitiating thing thus canceling out the hereditary condemnation of Adam’s transgression which was passed on to all of mankind. Though His dying, being what it was, could also not exclude personal past sins committed by man. Man now being a new creature at this point, by faith believing the propitiation of Christ, had the stain of Adam removed. . . “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.” Romans 5:6,8 (KJV) Thus it is that Paul explains this to those without insight in an attempt to make clear that, because of the transgression, all in the afterwards of procreation were deemed sinners [transgressors] and Jesus, when canceling out the original, canceled out all past on by procreation. This is what the cross performed.

    Knowing He died for the ungodly does not diminish man’s state beyond that condition to one of reprobate, as some would suppose, inasmuch as all who were in an ‘ungodly’ state of being were, by the evidence of their testimony, not reprobate. If we can view being ungodly as that which is without intimacy with God then the passage can be opened up to our minds to reveal to it, the understanding of the life purposed for intimacy with God. “Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.”
    2 Corinthians 5:17 (KJV) ‘Old things’ here is not to be construed exclusively as meaning sin or sins but being subjected to an influence that wars against me to persuaded me away from God, to be my own god. It must be noted that the subjection (Rom.8:20) is however, not lifted from man but a way to “put it to death” is made complete by the death of Jesus Christ; the hope of God has been satisfied. (Rom. 8:21) “O wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.” Romans 7:24-25; 8:1-2 (KJV)

    2009-11-10 08:12:47 Posted by Cross (croref@gmail.com)

    Correction . . . The below is what hope I will. . . .
    2009-11-10 08:14:46 Posted by Cross (croref@gmail.com)

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