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    Dolores Marquez's Blog - As a deer longs... so longs my soul for Thee, O God Ps 42:1
          Some thoughts about the believer's walk.

    Sat, May 23rd - 1:13PM

    In the Interest of Fairness



    In the interest of fairness - the pastor to whom the open letter was sent responded immediately to reassure me that he was not taking the church in the “Emergent” direction. He also responded to a number of my points in which he assured me that he did adhere to scriptural faithfulness. He also made clear that Brian McLaren is not someone to whom he follows, though he has read some of his books. I responded with gratitude. However, on second thought there is a difference between the Emergent and the emerging movements. The Emergent is hardcore po-mo (postmodern), but emerging is still in that camp but to lesser or greater degrees adheres to more orthodoxy. However, this particular pastor loves scripture and I’m sure that he will be cautious. - Dolores



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    Thu, May 21st - 5:17PM

    Open Letter to An Emerging Pastor



    In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies but the silence of our friends.

    Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Ezekiel 3:16-19 … the word of the LORD came to me: "Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the house of Israel; so hear the word I speak and give them warning from me. When I say to a wicked man, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn him or speak out to dissuade him from his evil ways in order to save his life, that wicked man will die for [a] his sin, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. But if you do warn the wicked man and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his evil ways, he will die for his sin; but you will have saved yourself.

    Shalom Pastor …..,

    I’ve debated whether to write about my concerns about the direction y’all are going for a long time. I write only because I really love you all and was so exceedingly blessed by my association with all of you. I bless your memory, and will always pray for you all. The congregation is a wonderful mix of people, warmhearted, God-loving, kind. You, … and the rest of the leadership are the salt of the earth and the characteristics of the congregation are a reflection of the quality of your ministry to them.

    Having received your e-missives re: your dreams, I was alarmed. So I prayed that the Lord would guide me about whether or not I should write you. Your third email pushed me. When the above quote was brought to my attention and the above scripture addressing the duties and penalties of the watchman (not that I consider myself more than any other believer is to be a watchman) has been rattling around in my head for the past few days. Please be assured that I don’t regard you as wicked. It is the culpability if no warning is given, that stuck me. So I’m going to dive in, please be assured that I am speaking truth in love. I’m sorry this is so long. Unfortunately, every time I tried to make it shorter, it got longer.

    What you do is between you and our King. However, your dreams raised the hair on the back of my neck, especially when your interpretation didn’t align with what seemed to be an obvious one. An alternative to your analysis maybe that the savage beasts in your dream are warnings about "fishing" in a dangerous or wrong spot. A move that might cost you more than you want to pay (the imagery of danger to your daughter). "Fishing" is a metaphor for seeking Yeshua (icthus). The fishing spot seems to be to be dipping into the emerging church movement, because it is something different from what you were doing previously. The slaughtered dogs signal that you’ve already lost some of the safeguards or guardians that warn of encroaching jeopardy (remember Genesis 4:7 - sin is crouching at your door). I’m not saying you should get out of the movement - I’m saying you need to practice extreme caution if this is still the route you choose.

    To that point, let me tell you why I’m not going to your services anymore. A large part of it is the impracticality of having a barely functioning vehicle and going to a church that is on the other side of the mountains. The other reason is that life experience has taught me theology is important. Everyone from atheists to polytheists have theology. Whether one has no god or 10 or 1,000,000 it is at the core of everyone and how they conduct themselves. We all want people to think correctly about us. I know it’s important to me, and although we will forgive and bless those who slander us, we would rather not have to do so. The same for God - He cares how we think about Him because it deeply effects how we relate to Him and each other. It sounds very loving not to require correct theology but this as loving as a doctor, not wanting to disturb my equilibrium by not telling me that the lump I’m concerned about is cancerous. I’d rather he not worry about hurting my feelings and tell me the truth. And, if necessary - hurt my body and cut the cancer out. Truth is important

    The church I went to in my teens, twenties and thirties was an emerging church before anyone else was emerging. We studied Rich Christians in an Age of Hunger (I still have it in my library), Waging Peace (also in my library), and Sojourners magazine was a staple to our believer’s walk. Names like Tony Campolo, Ronald Sider, and especially Jim Wallis were more highly exalted among us than Pat Robertson or Jerry Falwell. (We had to keep reminding ourselves that they were our brothers in spite of our ambivalence to them.) We studied the Richard Foster books on discipline and simplicity. We went into mourning when Ronald Reagan was elected (still not one of my favorite people). [I came by my liberalism honestly, though. In high school when I read Marx, I thought - this is what mom says. Having never read Marx, my mom was a socialist all on her own.] We practiced guided imagery and had Brennan Manning speak a number of times. Richard Rohr was also admired. His community was founded in my childhood parish and I visited it a couple times. We practiced syncretism (the mixing of other religions into biblical religion) of every sort, with the assumption that "all truth is God’s truth." All this is to establish my credentials on the subject.

    The emerging church movement is not automatically wrong. There are good aspects to it. They don’t accept tradition for tradition’s sake, but tradition is a neutral thing. (It only took me about 25 years of rebelling against it to learn that.) And rebelling against it for the sake of rebellion is - well, rebellious, and not healthy for the Body. Only if there is real oppression or harm being done, is rebellion a healthy thing. Mere embarrassment of people is not a reason to rebel. Admittedly, people are embarrassing and yet be doing a great deal to advance the kingdom. I am horrified when some people‘s theology crosses into heresy entirely too often, yet I know I’m not winning thousands of people to Messiah either. While I refuse to participate in their shenanigans, Romans 14:4 informs my attitude about them (who am I to judge another man‘s servant?).

    Their theology, however, is to be scrutinized. My aim here is to address the emerging church. There is plenty in emerging church theology to cause discomfort. To be red-letter about it, let’s talk about Matthew chapter 7. After the initial verses in Matthew 7 instructing us not to judge (more about them later), Yeshua is telling people to have discernment about handling sacred and valuable (pearls) things (v. 6). In v. 13 we are informed that straight is the way and narrow the gate leading to life - and not popular - only a few find it. In v. 15 we must watch for false prophets (!) - we are to discern fruit - every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down (from John 15:2 it is God who does this, not us). He calls false prophets ferocious wolves. He warns not everyone saying ‘Lord, Lord" will enter the kingdom of heaven. The chapter ends with His exhortation to be careful about the type of ground upon which to build our ‘house,’ our faith. "He taught as one who had authority, and not their teachers of the law" v. 29. He consulted neither the traditions of the elders (especially when they diverged from scripture) nor the culture of His time.

    I’ll not discern emerging movement teacher’s walks - that’s between them and the Master. Nevertheless, we see from Yeshua’s own instructions, their teachings must be discerned. Let me speak to this premise the only part of scripture that has validity is what Yeshua said: the "red letter." In Matthew 4:4 Yeshua answers the evil one’s temptation, saying, "Man does not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the Mouth of God." When confronting the error Yeshua repeatedly asked, "Have you not read…?" It sounds like He puts a high premium on the only scripture available at the time: the Tanakh or the Old Testament. Later, Yeshua Himself exalts the role of the Holy Spirit in John 14:26: But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you. That pretty much covers the rest of the New Covenant. Our use of only the red letter establishes the legitimacy of the rest of the scripture. The emerging church’s leaders attempt to use only "red letter" scripture is simply a masked effort to escape the embarrassment of the full gospel. And an attempt to avoid the inconvenient parts telling us we are to be pure even if it means going against our propensities to lie, cheat, steal, gossip or have illicit sexual liaisons whatever their bent.

    As for judging others, it is very true that to the measure we judge others, so shall we be judged (v. 1ff). Having gone into sin myself, I have to tell you, that there is this shining moment in my memory when a believing friend addressed my sin by simply saying, "We don’t do that." No tirades about how terrible I was, just a simple reminder that what I was doing was wrong. It was the beginning of my return to the Lord, the conviction drove into my heart like a lance into an abscess draining the poison of sin - bringing the health of repentance. She and that reminder glow like gold to me ever since. Throwing stones is different from addressing sin. It is quite true that we are to first attend to our own propensities (the log in our own eye), before attending to the speck of others - but we are not exempt from attending to the other’s specks. Yeshua tells us to first take out the log in our own eye, then you can see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye (v. 5). Yeshua, our model, also addressed people’s sin over and over when He proclaimed people’s sins to be forgiven, or exhorted them to go and sin no more - all red letter. Sin kills, and conviction is uncomfortable, but repentance is health. There is plenty in the "red letters" to make us have to sit up and take notice. It’s distressing that God’s love letter is being dissected and made into a smorgasbord for us to pick and choose what is "worthy" of our obedience or attention so that we don’t have to deal with the inconvenience of sin.

    The fruit of emerging church movement leaders is not for me to say - I’m not familiar enough with it to do so, nor do I want to invest much more time in something that is not a primary concern for me at this time. I do know that Brian McLaren’s writings sound more like Pilate, asking "what is Truth?" (John 18:38) than like Yeshua, our measure, who "came into the world, to testify to the Truth" (v. 37). As for me, I’d rather follow the example of Yeshua testifying to the truth, rather than the relativistic, postmodern hell of Pilate questioning what truth is by not holding to the integrity and veracity of scripture.

    Emerging church teachers are right that the embracing of any cultural way of thinking is not what we are called to do in our walk as believers. I, too, question the evangelical embracing of the overall culture (one of the reasons your church appealed to me). This, however, also applies to the emerging church’s embracing of a subculture (post-modernism). I do not take the doctrines of Judaism without deep questioning, because Yeshua questioned them. He rejected the way the overall culture (Rome) did things, as well as the way the entho-religious-culture (Sadducees), and its subculture (Pharisees) did things. He wanted to reintroduce truth that, no matter how you cut it, the Good News is not easy, mushy or soft. Take up your cross daily, He demanded - then set the example Himself by dying on one. Our acceptance by the sinner, is not our goal - it is their acceptance of the Savior that is important. If they think we are hicks, or naïve, or ignorant it is not our concern. There is truth to be had - and we are to apprehend it.

    Another disturbing thing about this movement, another that my old, exploded church had in common with them: mysticism is exalted over the Word, over truth. Mysticism is something in common with other religions. I tend to be mystical, myself. But this drawing of my heart to the Lord must NEVER be greater than my experience of His love letter to me. In His Word He always stresses that syncretism is not acceptable. Taking on the practices of the unbelievers (those who do not believe in Messiah Yeshua, Christ Jesus) is not only discouraged but outright condemned. It is idolatry - spiritual adultery. What I find bizarre is that they are so willing to seek ‘truth’ in every impure place but where untainted truth is to be found. They find a myriad of reasons not to take scripture seriously while taking on the soiled practices of pagans. My research into the movement has revealed that one of the prime sources is a man named Ken Wilber who is a practicing Buddhist and his orientation in clearly not Christian (and recommended as an author to read by Rob Bell). Brilliance is not a recommendation for a resource of knowing God. Satan is brilliant, but he is clearly evil and a not worthy teacher.

    Here’s the thing about things that are not doctrinally sound, and it has proven true in my own life: it is said we can eat the meat and spit out the bones - but if the meat is poisoned - you die. So many films I watched, so many books I read, so many conversations about fruitless things I had that I wish I could take back because they still effect my walk in negative ways. I wanted to be so sophisticated, so worldly, so knowledgeable that I wouldn’t listen to good advice. My father once warned me to be careful what I put in my mind. Another friend asked, "Why would you want to put that in your mind?" when I told her I was going to go see a particular film. But it was the "cool" thing to do - now I cringe to think about so many of these unprofitable choices I made. Now I have the duty of having to take more things captive to the obedience of Messiah than I should have. Had I listened to good advice, I wouldn‘t have.

    The fruit of the church from which I emerged, I can attest, however. Tragically it crashed and burned. Of the five elders (one with whom I still have contact, went back to Australia before the church "emerged"), 3 had affairs, their families broke up and their children are not walking with the Lord. In the congregation in general, many of us strayed - myself after 20 years of walking with the Lord, lost faith in scripture and though I still believed, I would joke, "God and I are still speaking, we’re just living separate apartments." Not as funny now, as I thought it was then. Of the other people in the congregation, many went through similar things. Some are wandering still. Many of their children wandered as well; some are not walking with the Lord citing the church break up as a reason.

    He finally grabbed me by the scruff of my neck and got my attention a little over eleven years ago, through a mystical experience - I had a vision of Messiah on the Cross and the universe revolving around Him and the words: "This is the single most important event of all time or history." Ever since, every day with Him now is as thrilling as my first day with Him. However, if this vision hadn’t lined up with scripture, I would have been obligated to discard it as a temptation of the evil one. It was only in finding my bearings in scripture and its integrity that restored me to Messiah. By integrity, I mean using scripture in context, not twisting it to mean what I want it mean. By inerrancy I mean the whole of scripture being true, not just the part that makes me feel warm and cozy.

    Now, my prayer is from the hymn, O Sacred Head Now Wounded, "Lord, let me never, never outlive my love for You." I’d rather die than desert Him again. He gave me a new love for scripture and an interest in apologetics. It would have been a lot harder to fool me had I been more aware of the intellectuality of my faith and not just devotion and piety. This vision came after 6 years of wandering and sin which I blush to think about now

    These terrible things happened because we didn’t take scripture seriously. The doubting higher criticism invites crept in, as it has into that of postmodernists. These were some of the smartest people I will ever know. We were too smart to be ruled by scripture. We wanted to excuse sin, particularly our own. We focused on the "social" gospel as more important than the rest of it. The physical needs of people overshadowed and superseded their spiritual needs. Bit by bit we deconstructed the Good News until even "red letter" was meaningless. This put us in a position where the evil one could pick us off at our weakest points because we weren’t being accountable about our sin or wicked thoughts. We made excuses - "you’re only human" - "whatever gets you through." We were more interested in therapy than repentance. We were more interested in sounding wise and sympathetic than being truthful and humble before the Lord and each other.

    Does it not strike you as odd that we in the West are not being persecuted for our faith? I think it is because the evil one saw how strong the remnant of believers were in faith, so he chose a different tactic to destroy the Western church: seduction. He chose to seduce us away from the truth. With that accomplished we won’t have the will to resist any on coming persecution that comes against us. We won’t even know what we believe, how can we resist?

    ….., I don’t think you are not like them, yet. You have a powerful gift and have been pretty much a faithful teacher. Everyone says things that aren’t exactly "orthodox" if they are thinking creatively. You are a creative person, so you may occasionally say things that don‘t line up with scripture. Please always go back to scripture as your standard. The trouble with the emerging church movement is that it doesn’t seem to have a standard except the worldly postmodernist philosophy. We know the world’s philosophy will not save them, only Messiah can do that. Please don’t put yourself or your congregation in a position to be held accountable for other people’s error. It is possible to be in this movement without going into error, I think (or rather hope). But it’s also possible to be a Mormon and saved. It’s better for the Mormon to come out of the Mormon church, where error is rampant, however and go where the truth is more prevalent so that they won‘t be lured into gross error. As teachers you and ….. are held to a higher standard because of the damage teachers can inflict. Please be careful. Philippians 1:3-7 is my prayer for you all: I thank my God every time I remember you. In all my prayers for all of you, I always pray with joy because of your partnership in the gospel from the first day until now, being confident of this, that he who began a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.

    I say all this because I love your church. My experience of your fellowship is that you have biblical integrity and respect for the scripture. I love the challenge and strength of the people and the teaching. But I’ve done the emerging church thing - got the tee shirt and have the scars to prove it. I don’t want to be in an emerging church again. The anxiety it would cause to be in your church now wouldn’t be productive. Yet I wish you well, and hope you keep your eyes open for poisoned meat and wolves in sheep’s clothing, as well as bears and lions.

    All my love, respect and blessings to you at…..,

    Dolores Márquez

    I’m ending with the beginning to remind you what motivated me to write:

    In the end, we will remember not the words of our enemies but the silence of our friends.

    Martin Luther King, Jr.

    Ezekiel 3:16-19 … the word of the LORD came to me: "Son of man, I have made you a watchman for the house of Israel; so hear the word I speak and give them warning from me. When I say to a wicked man, 'You will surely die,' and you do not warn him or speak out to dissuade him from his evil ways in order to save his life, that wicked man will die for [a] his sin, and I will hold you accountable for his blood. But if you do warn the wicked man and he does not turn from his wickedness or from his evil ways, he will die for his sin; but you will have saved yourself.

     

     



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    Wed, May 6th - 2:25AM

    Rebel's Yell



    With a Rebel’s Yell

    By Dolores Márquez

    Wow! What a way to start an article by a conservative believer! However, today I was listening to an excellent teaching on the trinity by Dr. Jerry L. Buckner, and trimming split-ends between taking notes. I started thinking of the split-ends as little parts of me and that I was helping the individual hairs toward health instead of causing damage. The damage was done by my neglect. For me, it takes a certain amount of well-being for me to care if I have split-ends or not. I don’t wanna whine, but it’s been a tough 3 years for me. That being said - God, however, has been patient and loving - though tough with me. I heard a great sermon a while ago on Hebrews 12 -- the chastening and/or disciplining of legitimate sons. If I were not a beloved child of His, I would not be undergoing these tough times! Wow! That’s exciting news! But it’s not fun; it’s not easy; it’s hard and unpleasant, but just and righteous.

    I found myself saying to the split-ends: “Now don’t hide from me, I’m not doing this to be mean. I’m doing this to make you healthy and beautiful.” That’s what God has been doing for me, too!

    I started to see my split-ends as a metaphor for my double mindedness -- that the Lord was trimming away double-mindedness that stirs me toward sin and serving the Kingdom of Heaven. He’s helping me to go more in the direction of delight and desire for the Kingdom. There is only one cure - it has to be trimmed away.

    He could have, as I could have, done a harsh cutting away. He is not that sort of Father or Vinedresser: John 15:1 tells us the kind he is. Every branch that doesn’t bear fruit he cuts off, but the ones that do bear fruit he trim, to make them (to make me) even more fruitful. His aim is not punishment, at least not for the children of the kingdom, but beautification and fruitfulness.

    Here’s the rebel’s yell: when I was young I was such a rebel -- I came to the Lord because I was rebelling against Him and my parents; well, sort of. For my 17th birthday/Christmas (yeah, I’m one of those kids born close to Christmas you hear about), I received what seemed like a fortune to me. This is about to date me, or rather reveal something about my age because how does one date a sentence? (date? -- hmmm - would a sentence bring flowers or chocolates?) So what would any self-respecting rebel do? Well, one thing is go out and buy a Jesus Christ Superstar, of course. Well, okay, there’s lots of other rebellious things that could have been done, but I was a rather tame rebel. Long story short, the music made me think deeply about Messiah, gave the Holy Spirit the opportunity to work, baddabing-baddaboom, I became a believer in Messiah.

    But I loved being a rebel-- I was a socialist, and so, so very liberal. This was maintainable so long as society was relatively civilized, but I began incrementally seeing some the points of the right as having validity, ever so slowly. Then suddenly, it seems like I looked up and society seemed to have taken a cosmic leap to the left when I was struggling to keep from moving too close to what used to be center. Suddenly I was in the conservative, religious right! Yikes! At first, it was downright scary, and repulsive to me. All the songs I loved that about being a rebel or rebellious didn’t fit into my schema anymore!

    A quote often attributed to Winston Churchill says, “If you’re not a liberal when you’re young, you have no heart; if you’re not a conservative when you’re old, you have no brain.” Even though he didn’t really say this, I was still determined to beat the odds and stay a liberal anyway. However, in order to maintain this position, one would have to close one’s eyes and deny reality. One would have to deny the reality of the terrible toll wrought on children of divorce, the statistics that tell us that couples that live together before marriage have a greater incidence of divorce, that sex before marriage reduces intimacy rather than enhances it, that the more sex partners a woman has the less likely she will be in a successful marriage when she does marry, that those who have identified as gay can change that proclivity with a strong commitment to God and a highly supportive community. These are just a few of the facts that have knocked down many of my former liberal leanings.

    The point of true crisis came when I finally had to say that if I considered abortion wrong for me: if I thought that I am committing murder should I ever have an abortion - why isn’t it wrong for other women? I had to finally say it isn’t a personal choice when there are many people involved (not just the family, but implications for society in general) including an innocent child. Up until conception there are a myriad of choices, including abstinence, and after birth there are a myriad of choices. There is just one choice. murder that must be censored - murder is wrong. The choice for me was finally clear. I could no longer be double-minded

    An unexpected outcome of that choice made things all the clearer to me. As a registered Democrat woman (I still have hope that party will again be truly populist and support the rights of the unborn), I would receive a poll asking various question about my positions on different issues. The year I came to this stand on abortion, I filled this poll out and explained my position on abortion in the margins as there was no space provided for explanations. I never received another poll. Apparently, I had skewed their stats. Becoming single-minded makes a difference.

    So, I had to admit I was no longer a rebel. I was submitted to God and His Word. I committed to not overthrow the morality established by generations of believers that came before me. There was a special on PBS (sorry, there are some good things along with bad things on there), and there was a part where the character (don’t remember who he was, but it might have been Woody Guthrie) wrote a song for a girl he admired. The song was called Rebel Girl. It made me sad. I was no longer a Rebel Girl.

    Then it hit me - I am a rebel. I am rebelling against sin; I am rebelling against the senseless slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent babies; I am rebelling against promiscuity and pornography. I am rebelling against the trash on t.v., movies, magazines, billboards, etc. I am rebelling against a mindless political correctness that is formally polite, but does not value the true worth of a human being as due dignity because he or she has been made in the image of immortal, holy, beautiful God. I AM A REBEL GIRL. Not submitting to the insanity of “that may be truth for you but it isn’t for me” makes me a Rebel. Not submitting to the stupidity of letting the media forcing me to be entertained on the level of the lowest, basest denomination makes me a Rebel. Not submitting to the Godlessness of this ridiculous culture makes me a Rebel Girl.

    With a Rebel’s yell - I submit to God and not this culture! With a Rebel’s yell I cry: no more, no more, no more of this society and culture lowness and debauchery. I am refusing to be double-minded. With a Rebel’s yell I cry: more, more, more - of God and His righteousness!



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    Sat, May 2nd - 8:34PM

    Have You Noticed?



    Have you noticed?

    By Dolores Márquez

    asdeerlongs@gmail.com

    Have you noticed that as society becomes more and more sexualized there is less and less genuine affection? When was the last time you saw two (or more) adults of the same sex (who weren’t homosexual) walking down the street arm in arm or holding hands? I’ll wager it wasn’t recently. And if you do see such a couple, the automatic assumption is that the couple are homosexual. Now that touch is sexualized and affection is as well, everything takes on that cache. It’s worse between men and women. Many the time I’ve wanted to just hug a guy because I care about him on a platonic level, but, because of this climate, decided against it. Recently I was watching a program that is a “classic” in that it was on television after its cancellation a decade ago. It ran before my mind had been renewed by the Holy Spirit to the point it is now, and convicted me to be much more careful about what I allow in my mind. Thinking this was probably a safe candidate for a half hour of mindless entertainment as I ate a late lunch, resolved to return to work as soon as the show was over. About mid-way, there was a leering between to males about an affectionate hug between two females. I was so repulsed it turned the t.v. off.  I don’t know if this reaction is a natural reaction among men, though I’m told this is. But, folks, so is a baby going in its diaper. Eventually the child is trained to dispense with the “natural” use of the diaper at some appropriate time and joins society. Just because something is “natural,” does not mean it is either desirable or to be displayed. Years ago, in college, I had a lovely Egyptian woman friend. Unfortunately, I had to keep reminding her that here in America women don’t walk down school halls holding hands, explaining the lesbian implications to her because it was incomprehensible to her. Truthfully, it is to me, as well. It just is what it is. Here is a lesson: when something illicit co-opts a “right,” everyone loses and there is less freedom for the rest of us.



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