Tue, Dec 20th - 3:18AM
Hanoi Jane -- I still despise your pompous traitorous attitude!
I just read this:
Jane Fonda: U.S. Troops Are 'Killing Machines'
"Hanoi Jane" Fonda is claiming that ever since Vietnam, U.S. troops have been trained to commit atrocities against innocent civilians as a matter of military policy.
"Starting with the Vietnam War we began training soldiers differently," the anti-American actress says in an email to the Washington Post.
Fonda claims she learned of the policy switch in "secret meetings" she had with military psychologists "who were really worried about what was happening to our combat personnel."
One doctor, she insists, told her U.S. troops had been deliberately trained to be "killing machines."
"This began," Fonda maintained, "because the military discovered that in World War II and Korea, [U.S.] soldiers weren't killing enough."
"So they changed training procedures" to teach troops how to commit atrocities.
Still, the anti-war gadfly cautions, it's important not to blame the soldiers themselves for carrying out war crimes.
Recalling the "Winter Soldier" hearings that she and John Kerry staged in 1971, Fonda lamented: "When you put young people into an atrocity-producing situation where enemy and civilian are commingled, where the 'other side' is dehumanized, we cannot be surprised."
Anti-war vets now returning from Iraq, Fonda cautioned, should be listened to instead of being dismissed as "unpatriotic."
"We have not learned the lessons of Vietnam," she declared.
And you learned nothing there either!
Let me set this clearly:
I respect the right of anyone to speak their mind. That first amendment right is something I, and many more who are even more at risk than I, defend at the price of everyday sacrifice and at times, the ridicule of those we defend. I can tolerate this. In fact, despite the pain it sometimes brings, I embrace it as an affirmation of the very rightness and nobility of what we do. We suffer all sorts of deprivation big and small so that you should not.
However, the actions of you, Hanoi Jane Fonda go beyond merely expressing your dissatisfaction with the Military deny you the ability to have any respect in my eyes. What you did, a purely evil thing, belies all of your claims to have any sympathetic feelings towards the men and women who wear the uniform honorably. Until you break down publically weeping, admitting your wrongdoings and sincerely ask each of those people you directly and malevolently wronged for forgiveness, you are a Jezebel worthy of nothing but my eternal derission.
I am not sure if you truly believe the stinking pile of crap you shovel with self-righteous piety. I am not sure whether to hope you are just truely evil incarnate, or simply misled. I know I should have pity on you, but it will take active repentance on your part for me to consider you with any mercy. Repentance is something I look for in you, but I fear it is against all hope. Only God, in his mercy, can sufficiently chastise you to the point that you would reconsider your ways.
This claim you are making is pure proganda. You makes Joseph Goebbels look like a childish wannabe. You seem to understand completely the need to make claims that by their very nature are both hard to prove and hard to discredit. However, let me go on record as saying I must take LOAC (Law of Armed Conflict) training once a year, and I take it very seriously. I am an NCO, not combat arms by trade, but have served as a cargo courier, a weapons courier, and a security forces augumentee. I have had to wrap my mind around this well enough thank you, and although I have never shot anyone yet, I have had the occassion to pull my weapon down on a person in the performance of my duties, and that is sobering enough.
Jane, read this:
This is from pbs, with more left leanings and sympathy to your cause than you deserve, but these people seem to be a little more dedicated to the truth. Read where the investigation was already started before the crap hit the fan. Read about the inadequacies of the leadership pool. Understand what truely happened. There was a lack of leadership from the NCOs as well here. A seasoned NCO might have had the brass to stand up to the young and overstepping LT William Calley, despite the fact that he might have been shot by the LT for doing so. I don't think that would have happened if the Sarge was smart enough to rebuke the kid with his weapon at ready, off to the non shooting side and facing him. He might have faced a Court Martial, but he would be able to sleep at night knowing he did the right thing.
Our soldiers are trained to think. We are told to obey the Lawful orders of our superiors, and we are trained to know what orders are not lawful. The american fighting man/woman is somewhat unique in that area. If people like you had your way, the prophesy you make would become self-fulfilling. I see no merit to your stance.
I see you rather, as a false prophetess, and I stand firmly against you. I suspect you prostitute your own integrity with the the lie that 'the ends justify the means'. You argue that your opposition lies, so you free to do so as well. I do not lie on this, and I am your opposition. I sooner curse you like an unfruitful fig tree than to look at you. I understand righteous anger. I have it towards you.
I do not consider myself the greatest example. I have no Silver Star like your Bosom Buddy, John Kerry. I only have Two Achievement Medals, A Joint Meritorious Unit Award, Four Outstanding Unit Awards, and Eight Meritorious Service Medals. I have not been in direct combat, so I am not sure that I could pull off getting a Silver Star the way he did. Many others have more than that honor. Are you saying that they are all on your side? Oh, Yeah. I also have Two National Defense Service Medals, An Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal and A Global War on Terrorism Service Medal. Big Deal!
And I stand against you and your lies.
In God's Good Grace and My Lord Jesus Christ's Service,
Lyle Melford Miller, Jr.